The Saturday edition of the Today programme has traditionally been more relaxed; a place for longer items, some more reflective discussions; the odd presenter try-out.
But it still needs production and scrutiny. Today's editors and the big Editor should consider sitting down with Martha Kearney for a full playback - only two hours, after all - and count the number of times her lazy opening questions contained the phrase "Give us a sense...".
(This started way back in 2014 with Huw Edwards, was noted by Tim Vine in 2016 who suggested turning it into a drinking game, and infected Today in 2020)
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